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Jonas Maurus's Blog:
I'm sorry, but PHP sucks.
February 24, 2006 @ 07:03:52

With another response to the comments that Tim Bray made about PHP, Jonas Maurus has posted some of his opinions as to why PHP sucks.

Jonas looks first at the comments that Tim made, looking that the "reasons to like PHP" first (two items, according to Tim's opinions) and then goes on to list six other reasons as to why PHP sucks.

Included in those reasons are things like:

  • There are 3 incompatible versions of PHP
  • (string)"false" == (int)0 is true
  • PHP isn't thread-safe
  • The quality of PHP's compiled-in libraries differs widely

He does note, though, that of the dynamically-typed langauges out there, PHP is the most approachable. He mentions some instances where he believes it's okay to use PHP too - along the lines of the "right tool for the job".

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SitePoint PHP Blog:
A pro-PHP Rant
February 22, 2006 @ 06:59:12

In a follow-up to his brief opinion on the Tim Bray comments about PHP, Harry Fuecks has poested this longer rant on the SitePoint PHP blog today.

He looks at eight different topics:

  • It's the execution model
  • Excellent database support
  • PHP Arrays
  • The SPL Extension
  • PHP 5(.1) XML Support
  • The stuff that says it works...works
  • Unicode and ICU
  • Stuck in Little boxes

For each of them he explains them briefly, dispelling any rumors that might have come up from those not as experienced with the PHP language.

Update: if you'd like to help promote it, it's been digged.

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Marcus Whitney's Blog:
The PHP Argument
February 22, 2006 @ 06:45:17

Marcus Whitney has chimed in on Tim Bray's comments about PHP in his latest blog post.

PHP has arrived. Tim Bray posted on PHP and it's got the web all hot and heavy. I know that plenty of people like to take these opportunities to flex their blog muscles and tell off all the other languages, proclaim their programming expertise and explain why all those using certain languages are dumb as hell. Greg Beaver has already done a good job of pointing out why this is a waste of time so I wont repeat what he said.

So in short, here's the deal. PHP is getting hated on because she is the prom queen. Rails in the new contender, and Java is last year's hot stuff. All three are valuable languages that provide many an over-paid programmer with the tools needed to wow their co-workers. Pick your weapon and go to town.

He's basically of the same concensus that others stated - it's not about how good one language is overall, it's about what works for you in the situation you're in. It's almost impossible to find a langauge out there that's a perfect fit fo everything.

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SitePoint PHP Blog:
Tim Bray on PHP
February 21, 2006 @ 06:53:06

Harry Fuecks has posted his brief opinion on the comments that Tim Bray made recently about PHP over on the SitePoint PHP blog.

Tim Bray kicked off a big blog debate on the pros and cons of PHP (see links in his post to everyone who commented). If you've been around PHP for a while, there's basically nothing new here but you might find cause for optimism in how things are being said'"there's far more informed discussion happening than you might have found even two years ago.

Harry also mentions that there's not much more he wants to add other than a comment on the "PHP is too easy" comment Tim made. Be sure to check out the comments on this post for some great opinions.

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