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Chris Shiflett's Blog:
Gosling Didn't Get The Memo
March 14, 2006 @ 06:52:36

Chris Shiflett has posted some of his thoughts on the comments made by James Gosling, specifically concernng why languagees like PHP/Perl/Ruby aren't "a threat".

I just read a smart critique of James Gosling's recent interview. It's worth a read.

For those who don't have the time or inclination to read the interview, it's basically the creator of Java trying to explain why PHP, Perl, Python, and Ruby do not pose a serious threat. One of his first statements is, "PHP and Ruby are perfectly fine systems, but they are scripting languages." In the critique I just mentioned, Ryan Tomayko dismantles this argument with a style reminiscent of The Daily Show.

The quote makes light of the fact that Gosling is just spitting back the standard "why scripting languages are bad" mentality that's been happening forever and not really his own creative thoughts on the matter. The response that's given (from Ryan) is, according to Chris, both "entertaining and informative".

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Professional PHP Blog:
James Gosling on PHP
March 13, 2006 @ 06:57:48

Via the Professional PHP Blog, there's a few quotes from comments James Gosling, the "father of Java", has made about PHP.

James Gosling, the "father of Java," recently commented on PHP: "PHP and Ruby are perfectly fine systems," he continued, "but they are scripting languages and get their power through specialization: they just generate web pages. But none of them attempt any serious breadth in the application domain and they both have really serious scaling and performance problems."

The headline here should be "Father of Java says writing web applications in PHP is simpler." Both .NET and Java have this be all things to everyone mentality. If you need that generalization, fine, but generalization is not without cost as Gosling points out.

Of course, Gosling defends Java over PHP/Ruby on the basis that they're "just scripting langauges" and not really made for the large-scale, general usage applications. The author also provides some links to articles about Flickr, one of the major PHP success stories.

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