In this new post from Andrei Zmievski's blog today, he has a bit of a reminder for anyone out there participating in the php-internals mailing list - "don't forget to participate".

The latest round of discussions on the php-internals mailing list highlights something that has been a pet peeve of mine for a long time. As PHP became more and more popular, the number of people subscribed to the mailing list has grown as well, and lately this has resulted in a slew of interminable threads of will-crushing length.

A whole lot of these folks are under the impression that one can simply subscribe to the list, read discussions while lurking or semi-lurking, and start to vote on things that affect intimate parts of the language. That is... kind of gall-ish, if you ask me.

His recommendation so that you will be taken seriously (and have your opinion count) on the list? Participate - good, valid, throughtful participation - that contributes a full and complete thought to the conversation on the list. And no, "+2 for namespaces" doesn't count...