Once the Voices of the ElePHPant podcast host Cal Evans welcomes back a guest he's had on the show several times before: Matthew Weier O'Phinney. This is the latest part of a series leading up to this year's ZendCon conference.

In this episode Cal and Matthew they talk some about the Zend Framework project (Matthew is the lead on the project), their new newsletter and the general state of the ZF community. They also cover the two sessions Matthew will be giving at ZendCon this year:

• There's a Middleware for That!
• The Middleware Express

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