The Voices of the ElePHPant podcast, hosted by Cal Evans, has posted their latest in their series of interviews with members of the PHP community. In this latest show Cal talks with John Kelly.

Cal and John talk about the talk John presented at the Midwest PHP Conference covering dependency injection. They also talk about the PHP package he helps to maintain, the php-amqplib library (AMQP handling for RabbitMQ) and the PHP User Group he's an organizer of: Portland PHP. The interview ends with Cal asking John about some tips for those wanting to start and maintain a user group in their area.

You can listen to this latest episode either through the []in-page audio player(https://voicesoftheelephpant.com/2016/08/02/interview-john-kelly/) or by downloading the mp3 directly. If you enjoy the show, be sure to subscribe to their feed and follow them on Twitter to get updates when the latest episodes are released.