The Voices of the ElePHPant podcast has posted their latest interview with a member of the PHP community. This time host Cal Evans talks with Jeff Carouth, one of the hosts of the Loosely Coupled podcast.

Cal and Jeff talk about Jeff's talk at this year's ZendCon about anti-patterns and some examples of what this means, mostly related to the focus of the topic: object oriented development. They also talk about Jeff's position at Liftopia and the trade-offs he's having to make between being a manager and still developing code. They also talk about the Loosely Coupled podcast and some of his experience dog training.

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