That Podcast, with PHP community member hosts Beau Simensen and Dave Marshall, has released their latest episode today: Episode #12, The one where we find the time to discuss not finding the time.

Beau and Dave take time out of there busy schedules to discuss what they've been up to recently and get in to the how they do or don't find the time for side projects and open source, in and around work and family.

There's lots of different topics touched on in this episode including:

• Docker announce Machine, Swarm and Compose
• the PHPBenelux Conference 2015
• Google's Material Design
• 24 Pull Requests
• SensioLabs Insight
• vlucas/phpdotenv
• PSR-0 Resource Locator

You can listen to this latest episode either through the in page player or by downloading the mp3 for listening offline. If you enjoy the episode be sure to subscribe to their feed too!