In the latest episode of their "Cloud Out Loud" podcast series, Elizabeth Naramore (of Engine Yard/Orchestra.io) interviews Laura Beth Denker, and Anthropologist of Developer Culture at Etsy).

They talk about one of Laura Beth's passions (software testing), what her role means there at Etsy, their "startup culture" and how they handle deployment and code reviews.

You can listen to this latest episode either via the in-page playerdownloading the mp3 or by subscribing to their feed.